Supplementary Consultation 2020 Questions 7a and 7b

Before reading this post please consider reading  Supplementary Consultation 2020 Step by Step  if you haven’t already!

There is also further info on the official Highways England LTC consultation website, and on our website.

Please DO NOT copy and paste any content on our website (or anywhere else for that matter!) into your consultation response.  In 2016 HE lumped together 13,000 responses as 1 response as they considered them to be an organised group response as they used a template with a free comments box.  We do NOT want a repeat of that this time around, and they have warned us they will do the same again if they consider responses to be organised responses.

Using the crossing

Question 7a. Taking into account the updated traffic information included within the supplementary consutlation, do you support or oppose the view that the Lower Thames Crossing would improve traffic conditions on the surrounding road networks?

  • Here you have a choice to select from Strongly Support to Strongly Oppose

Question 7b. Please let HE know the reasons for your response to Q7a and any other comments  on changes to the Lower Thames Crossing would affect traffic conditions on the surrounding road network.

You may want to ask yourself (in no particular order):

  • Will the Dartford Crossing still be over capacity if LTC goes ahead? Does it warrant spending £8.2bn on this? How can the LTC be considered a solution to the problems we all suffer with due to the Dartford Crossing, when it is currently running (or not running!) between 115-133%, predicted traffic growth by the time LTC opens (if it goes ahead!) is 20%, and HE predict that LTC will take just 22% of traffic away from the Dartford Crossing?
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  • Are you happy that the LTC would use ‘smart’ technology, have no hard shoulder, and Emergency Refuge Areas around every mile?  DO you feel that is adequate and safe enough?
    (See – and and the section on ‘smart’ motorways in
  • Do you know what the design capacity is for LTC, and do you feel it will be adequate?
  • Do you find it confusing and misleading that HE refer to LTC as providing an extra 90% road capacity?
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  • Since we have heard at LTC Task Force that Webtag which is used to LTC traffic modelling data is known to be outdated in the industry, why is it deemed acceptable for use for a hugely destructive and highly expensive new road project such as LTC?
  • Is it acceptable that HE have not taken into account how traffic will migrate between the two crossings, if LTC goes ahead, and the impact it would have on the exisiting road network, congestion and pollution?
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  • Do you think the junctions and connecting roads will be easy to understand and use?
  • Have you got concerns about how confusing and how far traffic will have to travel to correct a wrong turn due to confusing and complicated junctions?
  • Do you have concerns about the amount of signage that will be needed to help guide people at the complicated junctions, along with signage advising of the crossing charges?
  • What do you think about the fact that LTC will be chargeable to use in a similiar way to the Dartford Crossing?
  • Do you think that if there is to be a Local Residents Discount scheme similar to the one for Dartford Crossing the two should be interchangeable, so you don’t have to have two different accounts?
  • Do you have concerns about the impact the lack of adequate connections, and fact HE appear to be ignoring the true impact HE would have on local roads an issue? Think about all the extra traffic using Bluebell Hill, the M2/A2, A13 etc.

These are not the only things you can comment on, if you think of anything else you feel is relevant and you wish to share, put it in!

Remember any updates we publish after this will be listed in STEP BY STEP UPDATES for quick reference if you wish to review and add further comments!  We just haven’t managed to get answers of some stuff still!

On to Question 8

Step by step

Click through in order, or to whichever part you wish to view.

Questions 1a and 1b – South of the river in Kent

Questions 1c and 1d – Previously proposed Tilbury junction

Questions 1e and 1f – A13/A1089 junction

Questions 1g and 1h – Lower Thames Crossing and its junction with the M25

Questions 1i and 1j – M25 junction 29

Questions 2a and 2b – Revised development boundary

Questions 3a and 3b – Walkers, cyclists and horse riders

Questions 4a and 4b – Environmental impacts and how we plan to reduce them

Questions 5a and 5b – Building the Lower Thames Crossing

Questions 6a and 6b – Utilities

Questions 7a and 7b – Using the crossing (this page!)

Question 8 – Other Comments

Questions 9a, 9b,9c, 9d, and 9e – The consultation

The other sections – Indentification questions and Equality and Diversity are not compulsory, fill in what you wish if you wish!

Remember to ensure you use one of the official channels to submit your Lower Thames Crossing Supplementary Consultation response by 23:59 on Wednesday 25th March 2020 Thursday 2nd April 2020.